I fear Julio is forever ruined...

[AT Fresno]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ju01.shtml

The numbers don't lie, Julio peaked as a rookie at 21. Highest batting average, highest on-base percentage, highest slugging percentage, and in turn highest OPS. It's been mostly regression since then and in his age 23 season he was basically Franklin Gutierrez 2.0

I think that what holds him back more than anything is he's just dumb. His at-bats are some of the dumbest we've ever seen. He gets ahead in the count and then swings at a pitch in the dirt, giving the advantage back to the pitcher. He was the final out last year in an at-bat where the Blue Jay pitcher didn't throw one single strike. We've seen the dumb things he's done on the basepaths, the ultimate classic being when he was on third and dodged a thrown bat on strike three and then stood there laughing while the Yankee catcher fired the ball down to third base and nailed him. I mean, who DOES that?

I like the guy's attitude, he's a fun player to watch when he's good, but he's just dumb and probably will never improve as a ballplayer unless he puts on a Yankee or Dodger uniform.

Julio is definitely.... situationally oblivious. Even given all that, in Yankee stadium, surrounded by their hitters and the AL east stadiums, Julio is a 40-50+ homer producer every year. I don't know if it is lack of brains or lack of focus, but let me just say, Julio is not going to be a hitting instructor in his post playing days.

[DavidGee24]

I just find him boring. All sorts of talent, but seemingly plateaued as a good, not great, player. He's always having a great time though, which is fine. It's good to have a positive attitude and to be fair, maybe that's what he needs to do. I know we'd all like him to be more of a gritty, old school type, but people are different. You would think though, that he could occasionally show a more serious, competitive side of his personality.

And that's reasonable, as much fun as he brought to the game you never saw Ken Griffey Jr. laughing after striking out, especially in a high-leverage situation.

Which leads into the terrible at-bats Julio constantly puts up in high-leverage situations. He's got to be about the most unclutch hitter we've ever seen.

[GL_Storm]

I just find him boring. All sorts of talent, but seemingly plateaued as a good, not great, player. He's always having a great time though, which is fine. It's good to have a positive attitude and to be fair, maybe that's what he needs to do. I know we'd all like him to be more of a gritty, old school type, but people are different. You would think though, that he could occasionally show a more serious, competitive side of his personality.

And that's reasonable, as much fun as he brought to the game you never saw Ken Griffey Jr. laughing after striking out, especially in a high-leverage situation.

Which leads into the terrible at-bats Julio constantly puts up in high-leverage situations. He's got to be about the most unclutch hitter we've ever seen.

He's the opposite of clutch. We need a whole new word for it.

[Seattle or Bust]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DF7qCrECuSM

This right is why BABIP and hard hit rates don't mean anything.

[seasports]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e--9LTrTAE&t=175s

It makes me sad that the Mariners took what was a guy who could have hit .300/.400/.500 by leaning on his ability to hit for contact and plus speed and turned him into a pull happy clown that can't cover the outer half.

Peep the video above... the mechanics weren't great but they were his own.

He used to hit liners all over the field. He used to hardly strike out. I mean the guy hit .370 in AA...

This seems like an example of how a franchise can ruin a player. Now he's just a headcase that can hardly hit and strikes out a metric fk ton selling out for fleeting power.

He was never supposed to have months where he hits .190 fuckin 7. 197!!!... your franchise fuckin' player.

Julio is one of the most undisciplined "star" hitters in baseball. Heralded for his plate discipline and maturity coming up; I cannot be unconvinced that the ridiculous expanded strike 3 zone he went through during his first 2 months as a rookie and the success he had in the HR derby didn't alter his approach forever. We thought we were getting Griffey and we ended up with Cameron. Not bad, but not franchise altering.

[Big_Maple]

All things considered, JRod is a decidedly average player.

Move him to RF and trade for Buxton.

[Captain 97]

I just find him boring. All sorts of talent, but seemingly plateaued as a good, not great, player. He's always having a great time though, which is fine. It's good to have a positive attitude and to be fair, maybe that's what he needs to do. I know we'd all like him to be more of a gritty, old school type, but people are different. You would think though, that he could occasionally show a more serious, competitive side of his personality.

And that's reasonable, as much fun as he brought to the game you never saw Ken Griffey Jr. laughing after striking out, especially in a high-leverage situation.

Which leads into the terrible at-bats Julio constantly puts up in high-leverage situations. He's got to be about the most unclutch hitter we've ever seen.

He's the opposite of clutch. We need a whole new word for it.

There is no statistical evidence that Julio is "the opposite of clutch" or that he struggles in leverage situations. His career batting average overall is .272. and his OPS is .792
Here are his numbers in clutch situations...
Runners in scoring position .272/.797
Men on base .284/.846
2 outs and runners in scoring position.270/ .820
Late and Close .275/ .808
Tie Game .292/ .816
Post Season .211/ .804

Really the only thing that could even remotely be used as an argument for him being bad in clutch situations is his post season batting average. but he has made up for that with a post season OPS that is above his career number.

[Captain 97]

We thought we were getting Griffey and we ended up with Cameron. Not bad, but not franchise altering.

He's definitely not Griffey but Julio is a far superior hitter to Cameron.
Cameron .249/.338/.444, 106 OPS+
Julio .272/.329/.463, 127 OPS+

Julio is also only 25 and not in his physical prime yet. Cameron through age 25 was at .229/.315/.376 with an OPS+ of 83. Julio already has 24.8 WAR. if he puts up 40 WAR like Mike Cameron did after the age of 25 He will be a hall of famer.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I got 3 words for you....

Low and outside.

[GL_Storm]

And that's reasonable, as much fun as he brought to the game you never saw Ken Griffey Jr. laughing after striking out, especially in a high-leverage situation.

Which leads into the terrible at-bats Julio constantly puts up in high-leverage situations. He's got to be about the most unclutch hitter we've ever seen.

He's the opposite of clutch. We need a whole new word for it.

There is no statistical evidence that Julio is "the opposite of clutch" or that he struggles in leverage situations. His career batting average overall is .272. and his OPS is .792
Here are his numbers in clutch situations...
Runners in scoring position .272/.797
Men on base .284/.846
2 outs and runners in scoring position.270/ .820
Late and Close .275/ .808
Tie Game .292/ .816
Post Season .211/ .804

Really the only thing that could even remotely be used as an argument for him being bad in clutch situations is his post season batting average. but he has made up for that with a post season OPS that is above his career number.

I just know when they're behind and he comes to the plate, that he's probably not getting a hit or a walk. Major league pitchers know he'll chase in those situations and so that's how they play him.