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Re: Bernie

Post by auroraave » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:30 pm

Sanders is the only Dem that can give Trump some competition. There is no other candidate they are trotting out that has any shot of unseating him. They all have extensive baggage. Can you imagine a debate with Biden? All Trump will do is ask him about his son and Ukraine. That goes with all the Dem candidates - they are all damaged. Why do you think Kamala Harris dropped out so fast? Warren? lol - all he has to do is ask her using her 'minority' status by being 11024th "indian" to get a Ivy League gig and she's toast. They have no one with any real shot - which shows how staggeringly inept they truly are - they've had 4 years to groom someone - and they've done nothing but sling mud and now it's all coming back to bite them in the ass.

What's more interesting is how the Dems seem to be in lock-step with Trump now, passing his bills, even the wall is getting it's funding and the Dems are doing nothing to stop it after all their fake outrage over it. Anyone remember the 'children in cages' outrage at Trump? Only to find out that was Obama's policy. All this shit likely means Trump walks into another 4 more years - not because of his skills, but because of the staggering ineptness and toxicity of the Dems. The average folk have had enough of their divisive antics and identity politics. Hard to imagine a worse group of people on the planet.

So, why does Sanders scare the Dems so much? His biggest problem, IMO, is tasking the gov with all this free education, and his healthcare reform - and putting anything in the hands of the bumbling Feds - only ensure massive inefficiency and far higher prices. No one has ever said "hey, let's put slack jawed gov workers on this to increase efficiency and productivity." That's the ultimate flaw in his vision. I like Bernie and believe he is sincere in his views, but the cost to implement is too frightening to imagine - and that's before we get into the inevitable fraud and scams that will occur.

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Re: Bernie

Post by bpj » Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:48 pm

DanielVogelbach wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:13 pm
bpj wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:23 am
Sad what they're doing to Bernie isn't it?

I mean.... he's a terrible candidate, but still.

Do you guys see what's happening yet?
Pete and Steyer are out, which sends votes to Biden and we'll see about Mike B.

My expectation is for Bernie to go into convention with most delegates and not leave with the nomination, which will leave a major swath of voters feeling disenfranchised. However, I'm wondering if Warren drops out if that might open up a lane for Bernie to win the delegates he needs to secure the nomination. It seems like she should drop out given that Bernie is defeating her pretty convincingly.
Which is why Warren won't drop out to benefit Bernie.

Interesting that Hillary Clinton is in 4th place.

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Re: Bernie

Post by DanielVogelbach » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:06 pm

bpj wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:48 pm

Which is why Warren won't drop out to benefit Bernie.

Interesting that Hillary Clinton is in 4th place.
Seems so rigged and orchestrated. If she really believed in progressive ideals she wouldn't block the guy that has an actual lane while the opposition is strategically consolidating. We all know the superdelegates are going to f#ck over the progressive wing. I wonder if Sanders campaign has offered her a VP position yet?

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Re: Bernie

Post by bpj » Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:25 am

The only opposition is Bernie at this point and the establishment is crushing him like a bug and there's nothing he can do about it except get richer.

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Re: Bernie

Post by Grandma Lynn » Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:47 am

Hillary and others like her want
Biden in. Then they can take charge
and he can be their puppet.
But being under the eyes of the
gov't again, she will say she can't
remember all details. Either
claiming a slight stroke or similar.
I'm sounding like a politician.
They don't want Bernie in.

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Re: Bernie

Post by DanielVogelbach » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:47 pm

The establishment didn't want Trump either. We'll know more about everyone's viability in a short while. They don't call it Super Tuesday for nothing.

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Re: Bernie

Post by D-train » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:48 pm

Grandma Lynn wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:52 am
bpj wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:23 am
Sad what they're doing to Bernie isn't it?

I mean.... he's a terrible candidate, but still.

Do you guys see what's happening yet?
The question is, does Bernie see what's
happening, again?
You have to be blind and deaf and dumb not to see it. He is only dumb so he knows.
dt

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Re: Bernie

Post by D-train » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:50 pm

DanielVogelbach wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:05 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:43 am
Bernie has been harping on Billionaires buying elections. At least Steyer and Bloomberg are using there own f-ing money. Bernie is trying to buy the election for $97 trillion of OTHER peoples money to pay for his inane promises.

btw 97 trillion is almost $300k from every man woman and child in the US.
Self-Funding a campaign is great, but so is grassroots funding from small donors. What you don't want is a politician that's a slave to special interest donors.

Offering taxpayer funded services is separate from campaign financing and more of a platform topic. Voters can decide whether they think plans like Medicare for all are a good idea. In the case of Bernie's health care plan, he's always referring to the price of insulin being 10x what you pay in Canada. I think I would like Medicare for All. I would be able to quit my job without losing my insurance or having to switch doctors. I won't have to worry about an illness destroying my life savings, which will probably make me less anxious and live longer. Of course, he needs the Senate to have any chance of making it reality.
If the price in the US were capped at Canada's prices Pharma companies would lose all ability to raise capital and would all go out of business.
dt

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Re: Bernie

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:04 am

What I don’t get about the Bernie bro’s is the fact that being a college educated millennial and wanting all the free stuff, forgive student loans, free education, Medicare for all. What does that say about our education system when you don’t figure out the easiest principle of all....

THERES NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH

$300k per person......ya let’s vote for that..................

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Re: Bernie

Post by Grandma Lynn » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:47 am

Bernie can promise all the free
stuff he wants, but he doesn't
have to follow though with it!
Vote's is what he wants..

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