Death rate for the WuHuFlu

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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by gil » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:09 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:50 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:36 pm
doubts about it? in what way? I think its a deadly disease. My concern has never been based strictly on death rates, it has to do with health care capacity...You think the CDC is under someone's control, being manipulated to put out false information in order to manipulate political thought? How would that work exactly?
It is a known fact that anyone that dies while being Covid positive is considered a Covid death regardless of COD. Guessing they might suddenly reconsider and revise that policy this year.
I don't think it is a known fact at all. "People have been saying" this but the COVID deaths being reported do have COVID as cause of death. Just because there were co-morbidities doesn't mean that the person didn't die of COVID. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 681686002/

I know there are people (I think you are one of them, dt, and sorry if I am wrong) who have said things to the effect of "he/she had COVID but would have died soon from cancer, or COPD, etc.") I disagree with that underlying argument. It's sort of like saying that if I punch someone in the head and he dies from a burst brain aneurysm, I can defend myself against a manslaughter charge by arguing that his aneurysm would have burst in the next week or month anyway.

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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by gil » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:12 pm

IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm
LOL why is it when you guys post something that you think is supposed to add some legitimacy to your claim or argument... it's always from some half-baked, loony-bin source? You really think we're going to take what Sara Carter retweets or says?

She is a walking poster child for misinformation and Trumpism. But sure, if Rand Paul says it, it must be more true. :lol: :lol: :lol: Even funnier that in the thumbnail for Rand Paul saying throw away your mask, there's a giant, blaring lower third that says "DEMS PUSH ANTI-TRUMP POLICE STATE."

I mean come on man, try harder.
C-mon, ISLTM, Sen. Paul is an EYE surgeon. OF COURSE he is an infectious disease expert. Who you going to trust? :?

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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:13 pm

IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm
LOL why is it when you guys post something that you think is supposed to add some legitimacy to your claim or argument... it's always from some half-baked, loony-bin source? You really think we're going to take what Sara Carter retweets or says?

She is a walking poster child for misinformation and Trumpism. But sure, if Rand Paul says it, it must be more true. :lol: :lol: :lol: Even funnier that in the thumbnail for Rand Paul saying throw away your mask, there's a giant, blaring lower third that says "DEMS PUSH ANTI-TRUMP POLICE STATE."

I mean come on man, try harder.
So a US senator who has served for 10 years saying that you don't need to wear a mask once you are vaccinated and are immune to the virus is somehow crazy to you? Why is that exactly??? Because you don't agree with him politically?

But you listen like an obedient bitch to clowns like Pelosi and Newsome who tell their peasants to lock down and wear masks 24/7 and then go out to salons and restaurants while laughing their asses off at your dumb ass. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:19 pm

gil wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:12 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm
LOL why is it when you guys post something that you think is supposed to add some legitimacy to your claim or argument... it's always from some half-baked, loony-bin source? You really think we're going to take what Sara Carter retweets or says?

She is a walking poster child for misinformation and Trumpism. But sure, if Rand Paul says it, it must be more true. :lol: :lol: :lol: Even funnier that in the thumbnail for Rand Paul saying throw away your mask, there's a giant, blaring lower third that says "DEMS PUSH ANTI-TRUMP POLICE STATE."

I mean come on man, try harder.
C-mon, ISLTM, Sen. Paul is an EYE surgeon. OF COURSE he is an infectious disease expert. Who you going to trust? :?
Either you were being sarcastic or you look like a complete idiot.

You know that many infectious diseases are related to the eyes don't you? You do know that right?

https://www.atsu.edu/faculty/chamberlai ... eyedis.htm
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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by gil » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:19 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:13 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm
LOL why is it when you guys post something that you think is supposed to add some legitimacy to your claim or argument... it's always from some half-baked, loony-bin source? You really think we're going to take what Sara Carter retweets or says?

She is a walking poster child for misinformation and Trumpism. But sure, if Rand Paul says it, it must be more true. :lol: :lol: :lol: Even funnier that in the thumbnail for Rand Paul saying throw away your mask, there's a giant, blaring lower third that says "DEMS PUSH ANTI-TRUMP POLICE STATE."

I mean come on man, try harder.
So a US senator who has served for 10 years saying that you don't need to wear a mask once you are vaccinated and are immune to the virus is somehow crazy to you? Why is that exactly??? Because you don't agree with him politically?

But you listen like an obedient bitch to clowns like Pelosi and Newsome who tell their peasants to lock down and wear masks 24/7 and then go out to salons and restaurants while laughing their asses off at your dumb ass. :lol: :lol: :lol:
1. Sen Paul does not have to be crazy to be wrong.
2. Pelosi and Newsome were hypocrites when the did those things.

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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by gil » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:21 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:19 pm
gil wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:12 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm


LOL why is it when you guys post something that you think is supposed to add some legitimacy to your claim or argument... it's always from some half-baked, loony-bin source? You really think we're going to take what Sara Carter retweets or says?

She is a walking poster child for misinformation and Trumpism. But sure, if Rand Paul says it, it must be more true. :lol: :lol: :lol: Even funnier that in the thumbnail for Rand Paul saying throw away your mask, there's a giant, blaring lower third that says "DEMS PUSH ANTI-TRUMP POLICE STATE."

I mean come on man, try harder.
C-mon, ISLTM, Sen. Paul is an EYE surgeon. OF COURSE he is an infectious disease expert. Who you going to trust? :?
Either you were being sarcastic or you look like a complete idiot.

You know that many infectious diseases are related to the eyes don't you? You do know that right?

https://www.atsu.edu/faculty/chamberlai ... eyedis.htm
Maybe both. Thanks for the fact check.

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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by IStillLoveTheMs » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:21 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:13 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm
LOL why is it when you guys post something that you think is supposed to add some legitimacy to your claim or argument... it's always from some half-baked, loony-bin source? You really think we're going to take what Sara Carter retweets or says?

She is a walking poster child for misinformation and Trumpism. But sure, if Rand Paul says it, it must be more true. :lol: :lol: :lol: Even funnier that in the thumbnail for Rand Paul saying throw away your mask, there's a giant, blaring lower third that says "DEMS PUSH ANTI-TRUMP POLICE STATE."

I mean come on man, try harder.
So a US senator who has served for 10 years saying that you don't need to wear a mask once you are vaccinated and are immune to the virus is somehow crazy to you? Why is that exactly??? Because you don't agree with him politically?

But you listen like an obedient bitch to clowns like Pelosi and Newsome who tell their peasants to lock down and wear masks 24/7 and then go out to salons and restaurants while laughing their asses off at your dumb ass. :lol: :lol: :lol:
No bud. I listen to scientists and disease experts who are constantly at odds w. what Paul has said about the virus.

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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:23 pm

Guessing that during the formal training that was required to become and Ophthalmologist he might have taken a few courses on infectious disease. Maybe even more than the experts here.
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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:25 pm

IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:21 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:13 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm


LOL why is it when you guys post something that you think is supposed to add some legitimacy to your claim or argument... it's always from some half-baked, loony-bin source? You really think we're going to take what Sara Carter retweets or says?

She is a walking poster child for misinformation and Trumpism. But sure, if Rand Paul says it, it must be more true. :lol: :lol: :lol: Even funnier that in the thumbnail for Rand Paul saying throw away your mask, there's a giant, blaring lower third that says "DEMS PUSH ANTI-TRUMP POLICE STATE."

I mean come on man, try harder.
So a US senator who has served for 10 years saying that you don't need to wear a mask once you are vaccinated and are immune to the virus is somehow crazy to you? Why is that exactly??? Because you don't agree with him politically?

But you listen like an obedient bitch to clowns like Pelosi and Newsome who tell their peasants to lock down and wear masks 24/7 and then go out to salons and restaurants while laughing their asses off at your dumb ass. :lol: :lol: :lol:
No bud. I listen to scientists and disease experts who are constantly at odds w. what Paul has said about the virus.
Please share. I honestly haven't seen anything on this argument until now. Common sense tells me you can't be contagious if you are immune but I guess its possible???
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Re: Death rate for the WuHuFlu

Post by IStillLoveTheMs » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:26 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:23 pm
Guessing that during the formal training that was required to become and Ophthalmologist he might have taken a few courses on infectious disease. Maybe even more than the experts here.
I'm not claiming I'm an expert, neither is Gil... epidemiology is not his specialty and a couple classes taken on the subject do not make you an expert. I'll take the word of the scientists and epidemiologists before a Senator who has been at odds w. the scientific community as soon as this thing started and who feels the need to go on the Ingraham Angle, America's #2 news source for misinformation.

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