Long term future of the staff

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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by GL_Storm » Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:47 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:45 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
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My assumption has been that they would try to sign Gilbert sometime this year and then trade Kirby in the offseason. I don't know where I got this, but I believe there's a sense in the organization that Kirby isn't likely to sign.
Why in the love of God would Gilbert sign 18 months before hitting FA. He is better than Dylan Cease who got 7 x $30M You think the M's would even come near that contract???
You could be right. Signing an extension in this case would be a tradeoff for him and we don't even know if he wants to stay in Seattle.

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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by D-train » Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:48 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:56 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:48 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2026 11:14 pm
So would you look to deal them or give them qualifying offers and let them walk?
They aren't going to trade them if we are in contention so it will be a QO.
If Hancock has a solid year and Sloan and Anderson are dominating in AA, I could see them trading Gilbert this off season.
Happy to have a Gentlemen's bet on that my friend.
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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by D-train » Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:50 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:47 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:45 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 1:32 am
My assumption has been that they would try to sign Gilbert sometime this year and then trade Kirby in the offseason. I don't know where I got this, but I believe there's a sense in the organization that Kirby isn't likely to sign.
Why in the love of God would Gilbert sign 18 months before hitting FA. He is better than Dylan Cease who got 7 x $30M You think the M's would even come near that contract???
You could be right. Signing an extension in this case would be a tradeoff for him and we don't even know if he wants to stay in Seattle.
I think he would like to stay in Seattle even though he lives in Florida but not for the discount it would require.
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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by Double Mocha Man » Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:52 pm

If I were the pitching coach for the Mariners I'd ask Logan, for one outing, to look like he cares. Maybe even scowl a bit. See what happens.
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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by bpj » Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:20 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:48 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:56 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:48 pm


They aren't going to trade them if we are in contention so it will be a QO.
If Hancock has a solid year and Sloan and Anderson are dominating in AA, I could see them trading Gilbert this off season.
Happy to have a Gentlemen's bet on that my friend.
It's definitely not their strategy.

They had a similar opportunity to trade Castillo with one year left, they could have even saved over $20M at the same time, and they still hung onto him.

Not their strategy, but probably should be!

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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Apr 03, 2026 1:54 am

D-train wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:45 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 1:32 am
My assumption has been that they would try to sign Gilbert sometime this year and then trade Kirby in the offseason. I don't know where I got this, but I believe there's a sense in the organization that Kirby isn't likely to sign.
Why in the love of God would Gilbert sign 18 months before hitting FA. He is better than Dylan Cease who got 7 x $30M You think the M's would even come near that contract???
Castillo did, but my guess is they'd try invest in younger players.

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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by HawkandMariner88 » Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:10 am

How many of our guys would you say are true #1 Aces? If not their getting dealt. In my opinion you keep 2-3 (Kirby & Woo) outside of that their getting dealt or should get dealt. If you offered Gilbert + for Skubal I would do that deal tomorrow.

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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by AlvinDavisFan21 » Fri Apr 03, 2026 10:38 am

HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:10 am
How many of our guys would you say are true #1 Aces? If not their getting dealt. In my opinion you keep 2-3 (Kirby & Woo) outside of that their getting dealt or should get dealt. If you offered Gilbert + for Skubal I would do that deal tomorrow.
Sadly, the Mariners haven't had a true ace since Felix. The closest would be Castillo when he first came over from the Reds.

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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by bpj » Fri Apr 03, 2026 10:57 am

Personally I think there's only about 5 "aces" in MLB.

Woo, already, easily passes as a #1, and is just entering his prime.
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Re: Long term future of the staff

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Apr 03, 2026 1:17 pm

ESPN has an article up ranking aces, they count 11, Woo and Gilbert get honorable mention

https://www.espn.ph/mlb/story/_/id/4835 ... t-yamamoto

It's rumored the dodgers could stretch out Ohtani this season. He could be in that class, wouldn't that be something

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