SeattleAddict wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:30 pmit's funny to me when people keep bringing up how the Seahawks wanted Allen and Mahomes. Yeah, they really wanted the guys that went 7th and 10th in the draft if they dropped to 27 and 35. No shit. I bet they would've taken Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold (hopefully not Josh Rosen) or Mitch Trubisky if they dropped 20 spots, too, but nobody will ever talk about that.
The talk about trading with Cleveland I imagine went something like this:
JS: "hey, would you consider trading the #1 pick?"
Browns: "sure. give us Russell Wilson"
JS: "haha"
*click*
but yeah, they talked about it.
And why would they try to trade for the #1 overall pick when NOBODY had Allen going #1 overall?? If they wanted Allen that badly, they easily could've targeted the #4 or 5 pick which would have cost a lot less. Mayfield and Darnold were very clearly the #1 and #2 QB targets that year, and looking back on it, the top half of that draft class turned out really good EXCEPT for the QBs.
People run way too hard with little tidbits of information. The Seahawks look into EVERYTHING. Every prospect, every trade possibility, EVERYTHING. Just because they explore options doesn't mean shit. They aren't taking a QB (unless something really unexpected happens 1-4), and definitely aren't trading up.
Seahawks trading up to #3?!!
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I'm on the smokescreen bandwagon. Let's look this logically.
Carolina - Clearly between the 3, my guess is here is Stroud
Houston - Now while they could definitely throw everyone for a loop & go Defense, I think we all know it's a safe assumption they'll go QB, I'll stick with Young
Cards - My money's on trade back here. I think that's everyone's guess. I mean they are the most desperate when it comes to quantity over quality. They could definitely get a haul. I don't wanna put a % on his but I gotta figure it's higher then 50%. I wouldn't even advertise keeping the pick if I'm Ossenfort. I'm getting the most I can for this pick. My guess here is they trade back & the team moving up obviously goes QB (unless it's Detroit in which case I think they'll go Anderson).
Colts - This one's simple, it's either QB #4 or trade for Lamar. Would love to see Ballard & Irsay make that kind of bold move.
Still think there's a very distinct possibility Seattle has the opportunity to take Carter.
1st 4 picks, all QB's let's hope so.
Carolina - Clearly between the 3, my guess is here is Stroud
Houston - Now while they could definitely throw everyone for a loop & go Defense, I think we all know it's a safe assumption they'll go QB, I'll stick with Young
Cards - My money's on trade back here. I think that's everyone's guess. I mean they are the most desperate when it comes to quantity over quality. They could definitely get a haul. I don't wanna put a % on his but I gotta figure it's higher then 50%. I wouldn't even advertise keeping the pick if I'm Ossenfort. I'm getting the most I can for this pick. My guess here is they trade back & the team moving up obviously goes QB (unless it's Detroit in which case I think they'll go Anderson).
Colts - This one's simple, it's either QB #4 or trade for Lamar. Would love to see Ballard & Irsay make that kind of bold move.
Still think there's a very distinct possibility Seattle has the opportunity to take Carter.
1st 4 picks, all QB's let's hope so.
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From the article, doing so is trading RWSexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:35 pmSeattleAddict wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:30 pmit's funny to me when people keep bringing up how the Seahawks wanted Allen and Mahomes. Yeah, they really wanted the guys that went 7th and 10th in the draft if they dropped to 27 and 35. No shit. I bet they would've taken Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold (hopefully not Josh Rosen) or Mitch Trubisky if they dropped 20 spots, too, but nobody will ever talk about that.
The talk about trading with Cleveland I imagine went something like this:
JS: "hey, would you consider trading the #1 pick?"
Browns: "sure. give us Russell Wilson"
JS: "haha"
*click*
but yeah, they talked about it.
And why would they try to trade for the #1 overall pick when NOBODY had Allen going #1 overall?? If they wanted Allen that badly, they easily could've targeted the #4 or 5 pick which would have cost a lot less. Mayfield and Darnold were very clearly the #1 and #2 QB targets that year, and looking back on it, the top half of that draft class turned out really good EXCEPT for the QBs.
People run way too hard with little tidbits of information. The Seahawks look into EVERYTHING. Every prospect, every trade possibility, EVERYTHING. Just because they explore options doesn't mean shit. They aren't taking a QB (unless something really unexpected happens 1-4), and definitely aren't trading up.
. Doing so, of course, would rob the team of the biggest -- and, arguably, sometimes only -- reason Seattle has been a consistent playoff contender
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If the 1st 4 picks are QBs I am taking Anderson not Carter. I suspect Carter will be there at 5 regardless of who goes in the top 4.HawkandMariner88 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:13 amI'm on the smokescreen bandwagon. Let's look this logically.
Carolina - Clearly between the 3, my guess is here is Stroud
Houston - Now while they could definitely throw everyone for a loop & go Defense, I think we all know it's a safe assumption they'll go QB, I'll stick with Young
Cards - My money's on trade back here. I think that's everyone's guess. I mean they are the most desperate when it comes to quantity over quality. They could definitely get a haul. I don't wanna put a % on his but I gotta figure it's higher then 50%. I wouldn't even advertise keeping the pick if I'm Ossenfort. I'm getting the most I can for this pick. My guess here is they trade back & the team moving up obviously goes QB (unless it's Detroit in which case I think they'll go Anderson).
Colts - This one's simple, it's either QB #4 or trade for Lamar. Would love to see Ballard & Irsay make that kind of bold move.
Still think there's a very distinct possibility Seattle has the opportunity to take Carter.
1st 4 picks, all QB's let's hope so.
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Hearing rumors now that Tennessee is a possible trade partner for Arizona. God let this be true.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:32 pmIf the 1st 4 picks are QBs I am taking Anderson not Carter. I suspect Carter will be there at 5 regardless of who goes in the top 4.HawkandMariner88 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:13 amI'm on the smokescreen bandwagon. Let's look this logically.
Carolina - Clearly between the 3, my guess is here is Stroud
Houston - Now while they could definitely throw everyone for a loop & go Defense, I think we all know it's a safe assumption they'll go QB, I'll stick with Young
Cards - My money's on trade back here. I think that's everyone's guess. I mean they are the most desperate when it comes to quantity over quality. They could definitely get a haul. I don't wanna put a % on his but I gotta figure it's higher then 50%. I wouldn't even advertise keeping the pick if I'm Ossenfort. I'm getting the most I can for this pick. My guess here is they trade back & the team moving up obviously goes QB (unless it's Detroit in which case I think they'll go Anderson).
Colts - This one's simple, it's either QB #4 or trade for Lamar. Would love to see Ballard & Irsay make that kind of bold move.
Still think there's a very distinct possibility Seattle has the opportunity to take Carter.
1st 4 picks, all QB's let's hope so.
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Bill Barnwell...
"5. Seattle Seahawks (from DEN)
What they should do: Trade down.
If the Seahawks plan to draft a quarterback, they could consider trading up to get ahead of the Colts. As NFL.com’s Gregg Rosenthal pointed out, though, they re-signed Geno Smith and gave Drew Lock $4 million guaranteed to be Smith’s backup. It’s not out of the question Seattle drafts a passer — Richardson? — and installs him as the No. 3 option, but the Lock signing might also be an indication the organization doesn’t like the top quarterbacks, no matter how many pictures it takes with them.
Let’s say the Seahawks are not drafting a quarterback. We know general manager John Schneider typically prefers to trade down, both from his lineage of working underneath late general manager Ted Thompson and more than a decade of his own work in Seattle. When he has traded within the first two rounds of the draft since 2010, 14 of his 17 deals have been trades down. Schneider has been aggressive in trading picks in those rounds for veteran players, but it’s difficult to imagine him dealing this selection for somebody already in the league.
Seattle typically doesn’t draft this high, so this might be a chance to add someone at a key position such as Anderson if four quarterbacks come off the board to start the draft. It’s typically more valuable to move down and add more premium selections if you’re offered first- and second-round picks as part of a deal, though. If the Seahawks can land a future first-rounder from the Titans (No. 11) or Commanders (No. 16) as part of a trade up for a quarterback, Schneider should be amenable to moving back.
So a trade up if they want a QB, otherwise trade down."
"5. Seattle Seahawks (from DEN)
What they should do: Trade down.
If the Seahawks plan to draft a quarterback, they could consider trading up to get ahead of the Colts. As NFL.com’s Gregg Rosenthal pointed out, though, they re-signed Geno Smith and gave Drew Lock $4 million guaranteed to be Smith’s backup. It’s not out of the question Seattle drafts a passer — Richardson? — and installs him as the No. 3 option, but the Lock signing might also be an indication the organization doesn’t like the top quarterbacks, no matter how many pictures it takes with them.
Let’s say the Seahawks are not drafting a quarterback. We know general manager John Schneider typically prefers to trade down, both from his lineage of working underneath late general manager Ted Thompson and more than a decade of his own work in Seattle. When he has traded within the first two rounds of the draft since 2010, 14 of his 17 deals have been trades down. Schneider has been aggressive in trading picks in those rounds for veteran players, but it’s difficult to imagine him dealing this selection for somebody already in the league.
Seattle typically doesn’t draft this high, so this might be a chance to add someone at a key position such as Anderson if four quarterbacks come off the board to start the draft. It’s typically more valuable to move down and add more premium selections if you’re offered first- and second-round picks as part of a deal, though. If the Seahawks can land a future first-rounder from the Titans (No. 11) or Commanders (No. 16) as part of a trade up for a quarterback, Schneider should be amenable to moving back.
So a trade up if they want a QB, otherwise trade down."
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Unless Arizona stays put and takes Anderson. Then you're guaranteed a QB.douche wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:02 pmBill Barnwell...
"5. Seattle Seahawks (from DEN)
What they should do: Trade down.
If the Seahawks plan to draft a quarterback, they could consider trading up to get ahead of the Colts. As NFL.com’s Gregg Rosenthal pointed out, though, they re-signed Geno Smith and gave Drew Lock $4 million guaranteed to be Smith’s backup. It’s not out of the question Seattle drafts a passer — Richardson? — and installs him as the No. 3 option, but the Lock signing might also be an indication the organization doesn’t like the top quarterbacks, no matter how many pictures it takes with them.
Let’s say the Seahawks are not drafting a quarterback. We know general manager John Schneider typically prefers to trade down, both from his lineage of working underneath late general manager Ted Thompson and more than a decade of his own work in Seattle. When he has traded within the first two rounds of the draft since 2010, 14 of his 17 deals have been trades down. Schneider has been aggressive in trading picks in those rounds for veteran players, but it’s difficult to imagine him dealing this selection for somebody already in the league.
Seattle typically doesn’t draft this high, so this might be a chance to add someone at a key position such as Anderson if four quarterbacks come off the board to start the draft. It’s typically more valuable to move down and add more premium selections if you’re offered first- and second-round picks as part of a deal, though. If the Seahawks can land a future first-rounder from the Titans (No. 11) or Commanders (No. 16) as part of a trade up for a quarterback, Schneider should be amenable to moving back.
So a trade up if they want a QB, otherwise trade down."
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If the Hawks want a QB I bet that they have one identified and that's the only one they will consider drafting. I seriously doubt that they think all of these guys are so good that they will take any one of the four no matter which one it is.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:51 pmUnless Arizona stays put and takes Anderson. Then you're guaranteed a QB.douche wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:02 pmBill Barnwell...
"5. Seattle Seahawks (from DEN)
What they should do: Trade down.
If the Seahawks plan to draft a quarterback, they could consider trading up to get ahead of the Colts. As NFL.com’s Gregg Rosenthal pointed out, though, they re-signed Geno Smith and gave Drew Lock $4 million guaranteed to be Smith’s backup. It’s not out of the question Seattle drafts a passer — Richardson? — and installs him as the No. 3 option, but the Lock signing might also be an indication the organization doesn’t like the top quarterbacks, no matter how many pictures it takes with them.
Let’s say the Seahawks are not drafting a quarterback. We know general manager John Schneider typically prefers to trade down, both from his lineage of working underneath late general manager Ted Thompson and more than a decade of his own work in Seattle. When he has traded within the first two rounds of the draft since 2010, 14 of his 17 deals have been trades down. Schneider has been aggressive in trading picks in those rounds for veteran players, but it’s difficult to imagine him dealing this selection for somebody already in the league.
Seattle typically doesn’t draft this high, so this might be a chance to add someone at a key position such as Anderson if four quarterbacks come off the board to start the draft. It’s typically more valuable to move down and add more premium selections if you’re offered first- and second-round picks as part of a deal, though. If the Seahawks can land a future first-rounder from the Titans (No. 11) or Commanders (No. 16) as part of a trade up for a quarterback, Schneider should be amenable to moving back.
So a trade up if they want a QB, otherwise trade down."
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nope, then you're guaranteed we trade down.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:51 pm
Unless Arizona stays put and takes Anderson. Then you're guaranteed a QB.
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I would love nothing more then to trade with Tennessee or Snyder's team. We'd be guaranteed a 1st next year. Fingers crossed.