Shit storm on Twitter about Abe Lucus' opinions

[douche]

Humans are hilarious - they think they get to 'choose' their gender and if you gove politician your money they can manipulate the climate. Mother nature is just laughing her ass off watching us build bombs and viruses that may very well end our own existance - or maybe she'll pull the plug with a mega volcanic eruption or earthquake or whatever she chooses. The fact we think we are in control of anything is absolutely hysterical. The one species hurtling towards their own demise at thier own hands - thinks they are in control of anything. lol!

“We’re so self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet? We don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. I’m tired of this shit. I’m tired of f-ing Earth Day. I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is that there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!

We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet will be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?”

Plastic… asshole.”

― George Carlin

[Donn Beach]

Seems to me things like sports participation is beginning to shift from sex to gender designations. So yeah, instead of men's and women's sports, you will have gender based designations, men and women being considered old-fashioned

Though the terms sex and gender have been used interchangeably since at least the fourteenth century, in contemporary academic literature they usually have distinct meanings. Sex generally refers to an organism's biological sex, while gender usually refers to either social roles typically associated with the sex of a person (gender role) or personal identification of one's own gender based on an internal awareness (gender identity). While in ordinary speech, the terms sex and gender are often used interchangeably, most contemporary social scientists, behavioral scientists and biologists, many legal systems and government bodies, and intergovernmental agencies such as the WHO make a distinction between gender and sex.

[Donn Beach]

Article on doing away with segregating sports by sex. Guess you wouldn't have any designations. Hadn't thought about it, but I could see the concept of sports participation dramatically changing. That to me is an interesting angle in terms of futurism

Decades of research have shown that sex is far more complex than we may think. And though sex differences in sports show advantages for men, researchers today still don’t know how much of this to attribute to biological difference versus the lack of support provided to women athletes to reach their highest potential. “Science is increasingly showing how sex is dynamic; it has multiple aspects and also shifts; for example, social experiences can actually change levels of sex-related hormones like testosterone in our bodies in a second-to-second and month-to-month way!” Sari van Anders, the research chair in social neuroendocrinology at Queen’s University, in Ontario, told me by email. She said that this complexity means it doesn’t make sense to separate sports by sex in order to protect women athletes from getting hurt. “If safety was a concern, and there was evidence to select certain bodily characteristics to base safety cut-offs on, then you would see, say, shorter men excluded from competing with taller men, or lighter women from competing with heavier women, across sports.” We do see weight-class separation in boxing, rowing, and wrestling, yet it’s far from the norm across all sports, and isn’t typically seen as a method of integrating athletes of different sexes—though it could be. Old notions of sex as a marker of physical capability are changing, and more research is making clear that sex differences aren’t really clear at all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/arc ... ed/671460/

[Michael K.]

I could see that, like evolve into using different designations, who knows. Men and women is pretty old fashioned

I hope you are fucking joking.

[SeattleAddict]

Seems to me things like sports participation is beginning to shift from sex to gender designations. So yeah, instead of men's and women's sports, you will have gender based designations, men and women being considered old-fashioned

Though the terms sex and gender have been used interchangeably since at least the fourteenth century, in contemporary academic literature they usually have distinct meanings. Sex generally refers to an organism's biological sex, while gender usually refers to either social roles typically associated with the sex of a person (gender role) or personal identification of one's own gender based on an internal awareness (gender identity). While in ordinary speech, the terms sex and gender are often used interchangeably, most contemporary social scientists, behavioral scientists and biologists, many legal systems and government bodies, and intergovernmental agencies such as the WHO make a distinction between gender and sex.

where is this quote from?

I don't think biologists make the same distinctions as 'social scientists' (WTF is that anyway?), behavioral scientists and government bodies pandering to their voters. Sex and gender have been the same thing for hundreds of years up until about 2 or 3 years ago, when the bullshit fantasies of crazy people didn't fit the definition, so they changed the damn definition.

To me, I'm fine with saying someone's gender ROLE is whatever they want (feminine male, masculine female) and gender IDENTITY is whatever (DT identifies as a frog), but their GENDER remains whatever they are. If someone goes thru the surgery, I am fine calling them their new gender. If you cut your dick off, you've committed to it, and I'll respect that. If you just put on a dress and slap on some lipstick without even bothering to shave, you're still a dude, you are just an attention seeking bitch with a mental illness and fuck you if you think I should call you otherwise.

[Donn Beach]

That's wiki, gender, sex distinction
Seems pretty common
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex%E2% ... istinction

AMA

First though, it is necessary to point out that the terms sex and gender are not synonyms. Sex refers to the biological differences between males and females. Gender refers to the continuum of complex psychosocial self-perceptions, attitudes, and expectations people have about members of both sexes. Even the terms male and female, man and woman are not interchangeable. What it means to be male or female originates from physical characteristics derived from sex chromosomes and genes that lead to certain gonads, internal and external genitalia, and physiological hormones. Being a man or a woman holds broader meaning, with cultural concepts of masculinity and femininity coming into play.

https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/ar ... er/2008-07

[Michael K.]

Sorry, as soon as they make men's and women's sports just "sports" is the time when we no longer have woman in sports. You get cut from the boys basketball team? Just decide that you identify as female and play girls basketball.

"First though, it is necessary to point out that the terms sex and gender are not synonyms. Sex refers to the biological differences between males and females. Gender refers to the continuum of complex psychosocial self-perceptions, attitudes, and expectations people have about members of both sexes. Even the terms male and female, man and woman are not interchangeable. What it means to be male or female originates from physical characteristics derived from sex chromosomes and genes that lead to certain gonads, internal and external genitalia, and physiological hormones. Being a man or a woman holds broader meaning, with cultural concepts of masculinity and femininity coming into play."

What the fuck does that even mean? What if my "attitude" about gender changed because I think I could kick ass as a boy playing girls basketball?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

It's just part of the leftist game of changing language and the meaning of words to suit their agenda of demolishing the existing order as they perceive it. The irony is that they are encouraging stereotypical thinking with regard to gender rather than the more liberal and also scientifically correct view that thsre is a diversity of characteristics and modes of expression within each gender group which overlap.

[Donn Beach]

Just trying to have some fun predicting what the future might be. I've brought it up before, you look at predictions in the '50's. Everything is about technology. They have the husband going to work in a flying car with the wife still being the happy homemaker. The real changes have been socially, women with their own careers, same sex marriage, stuff like that.

With sports it's some wacky futuristic sport still being played the same socially. I'm just guessing the sports could stay the same, but the structure of the teams could be what changes. Like for instance, it will still be basketball but there will no longer be separate men's and women's teams. Segregating by sex will have ended.

[douche]

It's just part of the leftist game of changing language and the meaning of words to suit their agenda of demolishing the existing order as they perceive it.

Well stated.