Poll: trade idea

How would ya feel about sending Cole Young to Atlanta for Jarred Kelenic?

a fabulous notion
1
6%
sure, what's to lose?
0
No votes
i'd rather not
2
11%
no way in hell
15
83%
 
Total votes: 18

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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by harmony » Fri May 02, 2025 4:22 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:04 pm
harmony wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 1:59 pm
FWIW Baseball Trade Values assigns Jarred Kelenic a surplus value of $1.6 million and Cole Young a surplus value of $22.2 million.
Really, because a lot of people (here) seem to think Cole has no chance of ever doing anything in the majors. But if he currently has that much value trade him for something that can help the big league team now.
The poll results suggest otherwise.

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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri May 02, 2025 4:26 pm

harmony wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:22 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:04 pm
harmony wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 1:59 pm
FWIW Baseball Trade Values assigns Jarred Kelenic a surplus value of $1.6 million and Cole Young a surplus value of $22.2 million.
Really, because a lot of people (here) seem to think Cole has no chance of ever doing anything in the majors. But if he currently has that much value trade him for something that can help the big league team now.
The poll results suggest otherwise.
Just read the last few pages from the prospects thread. And i don't disagree with their assessment. But, if you can find some GM somewhere that thinks Cole has a bright future in MLB trade him asap.

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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri May 02, 2025 4:29 pm

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Fri May 02, 2025 4:09 pm
I would offer a trade for Kelenic in return for a cursed monkey paw, a VHS copy of Waterworld, and a raccoon with a gambling problem — because honestly, the raccoon might have better plate discipline.

Trading for Jared Kelenic is like digging your car out of a ditch, rebuilding the engine from scratch, and then—just as you're about to drive off safely—handing the keys back to the guy who drove it into the ditch blindfolded and drunk while blasting Nickelback and shouting, “Trust the process!”

This would be the baseball equivalent of re-buying the scratchy sweater you donated to Goodwill last year. Unless Kelenic shows up with a new swing and a therapist, this move feels less like a savvy front office decision and more like baseball Stockholm syndrome.
Just curious, what do see Cole doing in his MLB career (assuming he has one)? Maybe just his personality alone will make him more valuable than JK.

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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by Millikin » Fri May 02, 2025 4:38 pm

Maybe suggest trading Cole for anyone else. Do the Rockies or White Sox or some other bad team have a AAAA type outfielder that we could use?

I'd rather get Haniger off his couch than see Kelenic in a Mariners uniform again.
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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by desbcoach » Fri May 02, 2025 4:42 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 3:58 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 3:07 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 1:16 am
Cole has no future as a 3rd baseman. Kelenic may still be fixable (with the new coaches) and brings the D in the outfield where the Ms are shorthanded.
The guy is a clown and not fixable. He had these coaches last year and didn’t get fixed
Didn't realize Edgar worked for the Braves last year.
So Seitzer and assistant worked with Atlanta last year therefor with JK, no help. You don’t think Edgar who has been with Org before JK came has never provided any advice to him.

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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by Big_Maple » Fri May 02, 2025 4:43 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:29 pm
Just curious, what do see Cole doing in his MLB career (assuming he has one)? Maybe just his personality alone will make him more valuable than JK.
Kidding aside, I was more reacting to the idea of Toxic Kelenic returning to the Mariners than I was to the idea of trading Cole.

I was actually upset that the M's didn't manufacture offense and depth in the offseason - either by pursuing FA or by orchestrating trades. The former was never going to happen given our stingy FO, but I think we dropped the ball on the latter. We have one of the better farm systems in baseball, and we could have traded away a few pieces to get something to bolster our offense. you're right that Cole does not seem to have a clear path to the majors with the M's, and has could have been traded (and still can be traded) for something more useful. What that looks like, I don't know. But not Kelenic, IMHO.

I'm sure you saw the brouhaha when Acuna called out Snitker for not benching Kelenic for his lack of hustle (getting thrown out at second on a hit that Kelenic thought was a home run). He hasn't grown up, and he hasn't become a better baseball player. He flamed out in AAA.

But - after all is said and done, I am more than a little impressed by how some of our prospects have stepped it up during the injury-plagued start to the season so far. So call me wrong about our depth - the young kids have been proving their worth. But I'd still prefer to get a solid 1B, and longer term answer to DH and 3B, though.

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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by D-train » Fri May 02, 2025 4:49 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:04 pm
harmony wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 1:59 pm
FWIW Baseball Trade Values assigns Jarred Kelenic a surplus value of $1.6 million and Cole Young a surplus value of $22.2 million.
Really, because a lot of people (here) seem to think Cole has no chance of ever doing anything in the majors. But if he currently has that much value trade him for something that can help the big league team now.
Guessing that trade value will come down significantly once they update it based on his horrid start.
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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by D-train » Fri May 02, 2025 4:51 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:09 pm
I would offer a trade for Kelenic in return for a cursed monkey paw, a VHS copy of Waterworld, and a raccoon with a gambling problem — because honestly, the raccoon might have better plate discipline.

Trading for Jared Kelenic is like digging your car out of a ditch, rebuilding the engine from scratch, and then—just as you're about to drive off safely—handing the keys back to the guy who drove it into the ditch blindfolded and drunk while blasting Nickelback and shouting, “Trust the process!”

This would be the baseball equivalent of re-buying the scratchy sweater you donated to Goodwill last year. Unless Kelenic shows up with a new swing and a therapist, this move feels less like a savvy front office decision and more like baseball Stockholm syndrome.
:lol:
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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by D-train » Fri May 02, 2025 4:54 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:26 pm
harmony wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:22 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:04 pm


Really, because a lot of people (here) seem to think Cole has no chance of ever doing anything in the majors. But if he currently has that much value trade him for something that can help the big league team now.
The poll results suggest otherwise.
Just read the last few pages from the prospects thread. And i don't disagree with their assessment. But, if you can find some GM somewhere that thinks Cole has a bright future in MLB trade him asap.
You can think Cole isn't going to amount to much AND never want JK 1000 Miles from Seattle ever again.
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Re: Poll: trade idea

Post by D-train » Fri May 02, 2025 4:57 pm

Young is a great example why you trade prospects when you have the chance. If he doesn't turn it around very soon he will have almost no value at the trade deadline.
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