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Re: Williamson

Post by D-train » Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:36 am

Bil522 wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 3:06 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:52 am
D-train wrote:
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He already has an average BA. What is exactly is going to happen that will result in him hitting more the 1 HR every 250 PAs?? He is going to be 25 yo so he is kind of done growing. The only thing I can think of is PEDs.
I don't believe it's that unusual to gain power at around that age, David Bell would be the comp. It's not about Williamson becoming a middle of the order bat but raising his ops to the.750 range
I guess my view is different. I don't see positions as power positions. If you have a SS who hits 25 HR's and 3b who hits 2, who cares? It is the roster that needs to hit the HR's not the position. Baseball history is loaded with very good players who can't hit much but are fabulous fielding players. Ozzie and Omar are just 2 that come to mind. This year, the M's have a position going insane with the power, and that is catcher. Usually, catchers are good for 15ish HR's a year this year Cal will triple that. The M's did not need more HR's, they needed more people on base so that when the HR is hit, it is 2-4 runs not just 1. That is roster construction, which is where Jerry has failed so miserably. Ben needs to go down and become a more consistent hitter to be sure, but power will never be his game and we should never expect it.
God said I will give a big body but a small brain. that is why you don't get it my friend. You can't have both but it makes me sad that you lost the health lottery with at Mersa exposure. Fuck man breaks my heart. You are a good man sir and you deserve better.
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Re: Williamson

Post by bpj » Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:07 am

Bil522 wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 3:06 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:52 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:03 am


He already has an average BA. What is exactly is going to happen that will result in him hitting more the 1 HR every 250 PAs?? He is going to be 25 yo so he is kind of done growing. The only thing I can think of is PEDs.
I don't believe it's that unusual to gain power at around that age, David Bell would be the comp. It's not about Williamson becoming a middle of the order bat but raising his ops to the.750 range
I guess my view is different. I don't see positions as power positions. If you have a SS who hits 25 HR's and 3b who hits 2, who cares? It is the roster that needs to hit the HR's not the position. Baseball history is loaded with very good players who can't hit much but are fabulous fielding players. Ozzie and Omar are just 2 that come to mind. This year, the M's have a position going insane with the power, and that is catcher. Usually, catchers are good for 15ish HR's a year this year Cal will triple that. The M's did not need more HR's, they needed more people on base so that when the HR is hit, it is 2-4 runs not just 1. That is roster construction, which is where Jerry has failed so miserably. Ben needs to go down and become a more consistent hitter to be sure, but power will never be his game and we should never expect it.
Well then its good we traded for a guy that does have power as part of his game.

Williamson is a waste of space on an MLB roster.

Hes saved 1.5 more runs than Suarez? Lol, congratulations. Suarez has created 10x more runs with his bat.

Glove players are losers.

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Re: Williamson

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:02 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:03 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:29 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:58 pm
It's like saying jk just needs to learn how to hit breaking balls. That actually was more likely than Ben somehow be able to hit with even medium power
I think Williamson has much more of a chance to improve his bat than JK. Williamson's swing is total dogshit, but he's still able to hit above .250 at the major league level with a 21% K-rate. And he did that after being rushed through the minor leagues and coming from a second or third tier college baseball program. I don't see Williamson winning any batting titles but I could see him developing into something like an average bat with average power, and if you combine that with elite defense, that's a pretty valuable player.
He already has an average BA. What is exactly is going to happen that will result in him hitting more the 1 HR every 250 PAs?? He is going to be 25 yo so he is kind of done growing. The only thing I can think of is PEDs.
You are in a mood, aren't you?
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Re: Williamson

Post by DanielVogelbach » Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:00 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:00 pm
Well, thank you all for your responses.

My personal feeling is that Gino will be no different than when he was here.

He will not resemble the Gino from AZ because our ballpark is built for left handed bats. I hope I am wrong, but time will tell.

And I wanted the rookie to get the Gold Glove.
When Geno was in Seattle I thought he was the man.

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Re: Williamson

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:48 pm

DanielVogelbach wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:00 pm
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:00 pm
Well, thank you all for your responses.

My personal feeling is that Gino will be no different than when he was here.

He will not resemble the Gino from AZ because our ballpark is built for left handed bats. I hope I am wrong, but time will tell.

And I wanted the rookie to get the Gold Glove.
When Geno was in Seattle I thought he was the man.
We were sad to see Geno leave as well.

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Re: Williamson

Post by DanielVogelbach » Fri Aug 01, 2025 6:37 pm

The old Safeco Field version of Geno will be fine. He hit 31 homers in Seattle during his 2022 season. But, doubles are fine. He can hit the homers on the road.

His average might uptick a little bit playing on a lineup this deep offensively. .240 with pop is fine though. This lineup is going to be difficult to pitch to.

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Re: Williamson

Post by Juliooooo » Fri Aug 01, 2025 6:42 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:02 pm

You are in a mood, aren't you?
:lol:
He’s been a bit salty lately for a guy who should be relaxed in the honeymoon phase of retirement :)
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Re: Williamson

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Fri Aug 01, 2025 6:55 pm

Juliooooo wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 6:42 pm
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:02 pm

You are in a mood, aren't you?
:lol:
He’s been a bit salty lately for a guy who should be relaxed in the honeymoon phase of retirement :)
No doubt.
He needs to get laid!!!! :mrgreen:

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Re: Williamson

Post by D-train » Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:47 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:17 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:03 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 12:29 am


I think Williamson has much more of a chance to improve his bat than JK. Williamson's swing is total dogshit, but he's still able to hit above .250 at the major league level with a 21% K-rate. And he did that after being rushed through the minor leagues and coming from a second or third tier college baseball program. I don't see Williamson winning any batting titles but I could see him developing into something like an average bat with average power, and if you combine that with elite defense, that's a pretty valuable player.
He already has an average BA. What is exactly is going to happen that will result in him hitting more the 1 HR every 250 PAs?? He is going to be 25 yo so he is kind of done growing. The only thing I can think of is PEDs.
He needs a swing change. That's what he has to do. Right now, he sort of chops down on the ball.
Maybe we should hire some hitting coaches to teach him to do that. Once we do I am sure he will start hitting 30 bombs a season.
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Re: Williamson

Post by D-train » Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:48 am

Pharmabro wrote:
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I just heard that Williamson just got optioned down to Tacoma.

I disagree with this move. He can keep playing 3rd and Geno can DH. Williamson is a much better fielder that Geno and has the best fielding percentage in the AL. Wouldn't that make him eligible for the gold glove? If so, why is Jerry fucking him over like that?

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No room to Dh that is Polancos job against rh. Sucks for Ben needs to work on his swing more.
I think they plan on Raley at DH and Polo at 2b 3/5 Polo has been a 2B recenntly
Yes, bench Young who has a .932 OPS over his past 15 games for Raley. LOL
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