2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by Petert » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:26 am

bpj wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:01 am
Petert wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:20 am
bpj wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:00 pm



Good thought put into it for sure, nice plan. Winning team too.

Can we imagine them paying more to get rid of Seager than he's due by playing out his contract?

I think they're as likely to rework his contract to a 2/22 as they are to trade him, but I don't think they'll pick up more than $8M in a trade.

Whatever they do with Seager, good plan by this guy.
I favor a 2/22 scenario. Kyle goes to p/t 3b (assuming a replacement is ready), LHDH, maybe a few innings at 2b, to cement the scenario of Corey playing with his older brother.

Kyle eventually gets a Ms HoF nod, this identifying g the Seager name with the franchise. This will be arranged in advance.

It’s romantic, I know, but baseball is a game that falls sway to romantic notions.
Agreed, I think worst case scenario we send Seager out as our expensive utility player that way. Of every player thats been a Mariner in recent memory, Seager has been an excellent example for the younger players, imo. I'd love to see him retire as a Mariner.

HoF is an awesome thought, but you're right, probably unlikely. Still, retiring as a Mariner and maybe even seeing a winning team along the way... I'd love to see Seager still be here for it.
Sorry, I should have been clearer: I meant the Mariners’ HoF, not Cooperstown. My thinking was that Kyle inks a lesser deal to remain, gets private assurance of enshrinement in the team HoF when he retires, but it creates a legacy for the name with the team, one that Corey can associate with and is hopefully attracted by.

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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:28 pm

AT Fresno wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:16 am
I'd still like to trade Seager and sign Gregorious...Seager improved this year... think his value is up and for me, he's still too pull happy, too slow, and too easy to strike out.... and he's blocking our future..

Choices for pitcher to start would be Morton, Lester, Kluber.... Morton and/or Lester could provide veteran leadership and both could provide excellent advice on improving the curve balls on the staff. Kluber likewise.... and all three would benefit from a six man rotation....Walker had three decent starts with the M's but he's no where near the pedigree of these three... Paxton is not durable...

What did we get for Walker when we shipped him to Toronto:? A PTBNL Alberto Rodriguez.... We have a 20 year old Dominican right fielder(Alberto Rodriguez) with some decent speed and a little gap power.... had 108 games of rookie ball in '18 and '19 with slash line of .274/.356/.747 including 53 BB/87 SO which is acceptable. Just have to wait and see...that may be a good trade...

We already kno w we got good value for Paxton with rookie starter Sheffield, reliever Eric Swanson, and throw in outfield prospect Dom Thompson-Williams. I don't think we could cash that check again....
Its too late to trade Seager. The poison pill makes it unfeasible. We would have to pay more to have him not play than play.

ERAs and ages for Morton, Lester and Kluber are less than ideal. Time to spend more than a few of our greenbacks that we have piled up by convincing non baseball fans that Ichiro, hydro races and the Left center field beer garden are really neato.

Morton 37yo 4.74 ERA
Lester 37yo 5.16 ERA
Kluber 35yo 5.80 ERA
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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:30 pm

bpj wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:01 am
Petert wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:20 am
bpj wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:00 pm



Good thought put into it for sure, nice plan. Winning team too.

Can we imagine them paying more to get rid of Seager than he's due by playing out his contract?

I think they're as likely to rework his contract to a 2/22 as they are to trade him, but I don't think they'll pick up more than $8M in a trade.

Whatever they do with Seager, good plan by this guy.
I favor a 2/22 scenario. Kyle goes to p/t 3b (assuming a replacement is ready), LHDH, maybe a few innings at 2b, to cement the scenario of Corey playing with his older brother.

Kyle eventually gets a Ms HoF nod, this identifying g the Seager name with the franchise. This will be arranged in advance.

It’s romantic, I know, but baseball is a game that falls sway to romantic notions.
Agreed, I think worst case scenario we send Seager out as our expensive utility player that way. Of every player thats been a Mariner in recent memory, Seager has been an excellent example for the younger players, imo. I'd love to see him retire as a Mariner.

HoF is an awesome thought, but you're right, probably unlikely. Still, retiring as a Mariner and maybe even seeing a winning team along the way... I'd love to see Seager still be here for it.
M's HOF. I think he is in.
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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:32 pm

btw I assume everyone remembers how if you replied to too many replies you would get an error message? Never happens here. So nice. This is such a superior forum in every way.
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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by Petert » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:27 pm

Logins do seem to hang up occasionally for me. Maybe that’s God’s way of saying ‘don’t post that, boy, that’s an idiot idea.’ :D

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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:39 pm

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Logins do seem to hang up occasionally for me. Maybe that’s God’s way of saying ‘don’t post that, boy, that’s an idiot idea.’ :D
Why do you have to login? Do you logout?
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Post by Petert » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:49 pm

I am always prompted to login to post or reply. Doesn’t everyone ? I don’t tick the ‘remember me’ box, so I kind of expect it. (I don’t leave automated login credentials on my phone.)

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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:40 pm

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I am always prompted to login to post or reply. Doesn’t everyone ? I don’t tick the ‘remember me’ box, so I kind of expect it. (I don’t leave automated login credentials on my phone.)
Wow, how annoying. I do have to login on occasion but NEVER on my computer.
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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by bpj » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:59 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:30 pm
bpj wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:01 am
Petert wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:20 am


I favor a 2/22 scenario. Kyle goes to p/t 3b (assuming a replacement is ready), LHDH, maybe a few innings at 2b, to cement the scenario of Corey playing with his older brother.

Kyle eventually gets a Ms HoF nod, this identifying g the Seager name with the franchise. This will be arranged in advance.

It’s romantic, I know, but baseball is a game that falls sway to romantic notions.
Agreed, I think worst case scenario we send Seager out as our expensive utility player that way. Of every player thats been a Mariner in recent memory, Seager has been an excellent example for the younger players, imo. I'd love to see him retire as a Mariner.

HoF is an awesome thought, but you're right, probably unlikely. Still, retiring as a Mariner and maybe even seeing a winning team along the way... I'd love to see Seager still be here for it.
M's HOF. I think he is in.
Oh yeah, that seems like an easy call for sure. He's made a great Mariner.

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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by Petert » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:06 am

For those of us considering Joe Musgrove as a rotation trade target this winter. Now *this* would seem to be a pitcher we could trade very acceptably for.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/11/ ... grove.html

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