2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

[D-train]

Has anyone heard if we are having a minor league season this spring? If they move forward with a full season than hopefully Evan white and maybe even Mitch Haniger start there and Get there problems fixed, Evan at this point is looking more like a bust at the plate, sure he might figure it out at the big game, but it’s hard to do and he looks like he just guessing at the plate at this point. To project that Mitch will be ready when we break camp is a stretch which leaves us with several big holes on opening day.
Add it all up and it just seems to be jumping the gun to go all in this yr for a season that is so full of question marks. Sure this team has a horrible history of never really spending when they needed to, However with the wuflu being so politicized to the point of punting on another yr, We are really in a great spot with no payroll and tons of talent. I would love to see Bauer in a Mariners uniform, but if he really only wants a one yr deal then pay him $45 for 2022

I would assume the M's operate under a typical annual budgeting process for the most part so that $45M we would save in 2021 would just go into the owners pockets never to be seen nor heard from again. Perhaps they would consider their low payroll in prior years when planning the 2022 spend but I would be surprised. Could be wrong, but I would think they consider each year independently.

[Donn Beach]

Jesus and you wonder why you drive people f-ing nuts. Every move you posted was administrative shuffling of our own players on and off the 40 man an IL. Any idiot knew what I was talking about and didn't need me to spell it out as in I wonder why JD has not completed a trade for another teams players for some of our players or signed a free agent to a major league contract.

Did you honestly think you were informing me of roster moves that I was unaware of by posting that link. Rhetorical question.

those were FA signings, yeah minor league contracts, that why i asked, you meant like a major move. I didn't think i was telling you something you didn't know. I was wondering about the not being surprised part. I thought he had set us up to not expect much, his just dealing with the bp and all that. He is busy on his little moves, those are cannon fodder for bp competition i am going to guess

Seattle Mariners signed free agent RHP Matt Magill to a minor league contract.
11/17/20 Seattle Mariners signed free agent RHP Gerson Bautista to a minor league contract.
11/16/20 Seattle Mariners signed free agent RHP Brady Lail to a minor league contract.
11/06/20 Seattle Mariners signed free agent RHP Moises Gomez to a minor league contract.
11/06/20 Seattle Mariners signed free agent RHP Vinny Nittoli to a minor league contract.

Just saw that Morton is the first and only FA to switch teams so we are not alone. Usually there quite a few trades and signings by now. I guess its the winter meetings when things start humming. If not much happens in the next few weeks then we could be looking at a whole new post Covid market and the obligatory cries of collusion from the union.

in terms of being linked to Snell

Unlike in 2016 when Dipoto lit the hot stove on fire with a Thanksgiving eve blockbuster with the Diamondbacks to acquire Mitch Haniger and Jean Segura, or in 2018 when he sandwiched the holiday with trades that sent away James Paxton and Alex Colomé, this year the M’s ended up in reports through no fault of their own.

[AT Funchal-Madeira]

Interested in stocking up some "non-tender candidates"? We could probably sign Guillermo Heredia away from the Mets, Ben Gamel away from the Brewers, and also Dan "the man" Vogelbach away from the Brewers. Nah? I didn't think so....

[D-train]

Interested in stocking up some "non-tender candidates"? We could probably sign Guillermo Heredia away from the Mets, Ben Gamel away from the Brewers, and also Dan "the man" Vogelbach away from the Brewers. Nah? I didn't think so....

Vogey's strong finish and the DH in the NL should keep him out of the unemployment offices at least until mid season next year.

He had 69 PAs with us and a .476 OPS

He had 67 PAs with the Brew Crew and a .978 OPS

Oddly he had more Ks and and less walks with them than us. I guess he starting swinging more and it worked.

[Coeurd’Alene J]

Has anyone heard if we are having a minor league season this spring? If they move forward with a full season than hopefully Evan white and maybe even Mitch Haniger start there and Get there problems fixed, Evan at this point is looking more like a bust at the plate, sure he might figure it out at the big game, but it’s hard to do and he looks like he just guessing at the plate at this point. To project that Mitch will be ready when we break camp is a stretch which leaves us with several big holes on opening day.
Add it all up and it just seems to be jumping the gun to go all in this yr for a season that is so full of question marks. Sure this team has a horrible history of never really spending when they needed to, However with the wuflu being so politicized to the point of punting on another yr, We are really in a great spot with no payroll and tons of talent. I would love to see Bauer in a Mariners uniform, but if he really only wants a one yr deal then pay him $45 for 2022

I would assume the M's operate under a typical annual budgeting process for the most part so that $45M we would save in 2021 would just go into the owners pockets never to be seen nor heard from again. Perhaps they would consider their low payroll in prior years when planning the 2022 spend but I would be surprised. Could be wrong, but I would think they consider each year independently.

I’m not impressed with ownership and the past certainly gives me pause. Are they capable of overspending when the timing is right. Are they capable of discerning when the time is right......

[D-train]

Neither am I. Its a business investment for them. Would they like to win a WS, sure but it is a secondary goal imo.

[D-train]

The Pandemic's impact on FA and one year deals idea was Charlie Finley's.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/base ... story.html

[D-train]

Haniger sighting taking cuts in the cage. If we have a full ST which we should he should be ready by OD barring setbacks.

[Petert]

The MLBTR post made me think about this:

Gary Sanchez - as a DH (and emergency-only catcher).

It seems like the Yankees are deciding whether to cut their ties with this guy, and might let him go cheap. Truth be known, I’d rather have Cruz, but the way Jerry sniffs around bargains, I’m wondering if this is something he’d ponder, if a couple of lower third tier prospects would tie the deal.

...unless he’s the second coming of Jesus Montero, that is...

[Donn Beach]

The Pandemic's impact on FA and one year deals idea was Charlie Finley's.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/base ... story.html

Yeah, that is what i keep bringing up, of course his idea was a bit more radical, every player a FA annually. Its interesting to me that fans seem to be opposed to the idea, they want the security of their players under contract. But it would be the most efficient way to value production, and i think benefit owners more than players. That is why i find it hard to see one year contracts being a way for Bauer to feel he can maximize his earnings